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Who'd win on a 1 vs 1
A Lead Machamp
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Darkrai
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PostSubject: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:21 pm

we were have a dicussion/argument on the chatbox and i want to find out your opinions on whos better so vote away.
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:24 pm

1 vote for machamp.we know who that is right!!
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:27 pm

i should have had a battle with lonequincy to decide
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:25 pm

indecidable

1) it has a suppiror speed
2) Darkrais psychic+ sp attack + (iteam?)+ machamps weakness to psychic = yer machamp is pretty much going to loose...

but then

if machamp has a focus sash then

1) NO guard+ Supirrior attack+ STAB+ Darkrais weakness to fighting + Dynamic punch

so it all depend on if mchamp has a focus sash or not.... if it does then yea machamp FTW and if it doesn't then LOL DARKIRA WILL KICK ITS A$$

unless darkrai also has a focus sash then you go down to would darkrai hit its self in confusion or not..... and thats a differnt matter...
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:51 pm

No, even with a sash Lead Machamp carries Bullet Punch


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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:38 pm

Lead Machamp will win.
Machamp will actually lose if it has focus sash because Darkrai will dark void and 2HKO Machamp with focus blast when it's asleep.
EDIT: Darkrai has a slight chance of winning; dark pulse has a 20% chance to flinch, if it flinches, then Darkrai can KO on the next turn.
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:12 pm

ok so if machamp has no guard

hypnosis is 100% + bad dream+ darkrai gets a free turn= machamp is bye bye

i think darkrai would win even if machoke has lum berry...if darkrai had max defence and machamp has max attack bullet punch still wouldnt do anything....and if machamp used dynamic punch on a max hp darkrai it still would leave darkrai enough hp to kill machamp

so my vote is to darkrai...
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:00 pm

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ok so if machamp has no guard

hypnosis is 100% + bad dream+ darkrai gets a free turn= machamp is bye bye

i think darkrai would win even if machoke has lum berry...if darkrai had max defence and machamp has max attack bullet punch still wouldnt do anything....and if machamp used dynamic punch on a max hp darkrai it still would leave darkrai enough hp to kill machamp

so my vote is to darkrai...

Dynamic Punch would bring Darkrai with a sash to 1HP, then bullet punch to kill. Even if it does take a dynamic punch, and then a bullet punch, Darkrai will be confused. I guess there will be 50% chance to hit Machamp to K.O, but who would put HP and DEF evs on Darkrai anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:15 pm

ok so basically this arguemt comes down to what iteam darkria and machamp are holding...
or if darkrai is affeced by confusion or not...
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:25 pm

Some Damage Calc:
Standard Darkrai vs Standard Lead Machamp
All IVs will be set to 31
No hax applied

Darkrai@ Focus Sash
Timid
EVs: 252 sp att, 4 sp def, 252 spd
HP= 281
Defense= 216
Special Attack= 369

Machamp@ Lum Berry
Adamant
EVs: 240 hp, 248 att, 16 sp def, 4 spd
HP= 381
Attack= 392
Special Defense= 210

Darkrai uses Dark Pulse: 19.95% min - 23.62% max
Machamp uses Dynamic Punch: 138.79% min - 164.41% max
Darkrai survives with 1 HP and Machamp finishes it off with Bullet Punch
Winner: Machamp

Darkrai uses Focus Blast: 39.9% min - 46.98% max
Repeat Dynamic Punch calc.
Repeat Bullet Punch
Winner: Machamp

Same Stats but Darkrai's now holding Life Orb

Darkrai uses Dark Pulse: 25.98% min- 30.71% max
Repeat Dynamic Punch calc.
Winner: Machamp

Darkrai uses Focus Blast: 51.71% min - 60.89% max (2HKO)
Repeat Dynamic Punch calc.
Winner: Machamp
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:41 am

obviously darkrai i mean all it has to do is use
dark void
then nightmare
and finally dream eater and the machamp is gone
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:58 am

yer but were saying if machamp has a lum berry what would the out come be then..
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PostSubject: Machamp   Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:21 am

Machamp because Darkrai is an UBER
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:06 am

hi matt
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:06 am

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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Fri Dec 24, 2010 6:31 am

[SV]Matt wrote:
Machamp because Darkrai is an UBER

that would support darkrai cause UBERs are stronger than all the other tires...


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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:16 am

darkrai because it knows dark void or hypnosis then its ability then it uses dream eater 2 round victory
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:44 pm

ARE U ALL OK? (you need 2 pay attention 2 pkmn types) Darkrai is a GHOST/DARK like spiritomb ghost types are unaffected by normal and FIGHTING type moves while its weak 2 psycic but the dark stops the psycic while darks weakness is fighting (which has no effect still) so unless machamp has foresight it will get slaughtered because it cant do super effective moves
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:26 pm

THESHREDDER101 wrote:
darkrai because it knows dark void or hypnosis then its ability then it uses dream eater 2 round victory

Lead Machamps carry Lum Berry

Joseph wrote:
ARE U ALL OK? (you need 2 pay attention 2 pkmn types) Darkrai is a GHOST/DARK like spiritomb ghost types are unaffected by normal and FIGHTING type moves while its weak 2 psycic but the dark stops the psycic while darks weakness is fighting (which has no effect still) so unless machamp has foresight it will get slaughtered because it cant do super effective moves

Darkrai is dark only not dark ghost lol

So Machamp still wins
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PostSubject: Re: Who would win on a 1 vs 1 Darkrai or machamp   Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:18 pm

Looks like someone here should take his own advise about checking types. Only Ghost/Darks in the game are Sableye and Spiritomb
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