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PostSubject: Garchomp? In my OU?   Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:40 am

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3471600

Whether you liked it, hated it, even used it, Garchomp getting a second chance.

Discuss? Will the meta game keep up to date with this?
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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:24 am

hes in the OU? i though he was uber...
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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:47 am

sandveil is getting banned with sandstream so rough skin garchomp is becoming ou
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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:49 am

finally some fairness to swift swim drizzle. Hopefully chloryphyl will be banned in drought next
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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:51 am

lol chlrophyll drought ban would bring an end to my amazing exeggutor Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:40 am

They wont ban Chlorophyll and Drought because grass pokemon don't get a STAB boost benefit.

Like with Sanstorm sandrush.

Granchomp could change a few things we could be seeing some lower tires move up to counter granchomp.

They need a new change since OU has been a bit poor and repetitive.
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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:35 pm

Garchomp is an AMAZING pokemon with or without sand veil. This poke makes flygon looks like crap. Sadly if cannot learn dragon dances. Garchomp has some very underrated bulk, it has the same bulk as a skarm if it ran the same evs like skarm (max hp, max def, impish nature)

Sand veil is such an annoying ability and should be banned a long time ago, it pretty much makes all moves accuracy at most 80%, so basically its like a free sand-attack.

It will make somewhat of an impact but I dont think it will make a huge impact like scizor/genesect and tornadus-T.
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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:26 am

Kinda like a really OP "Dat Stunfisk". Sand Veil on Glis is already annoying with 252 Sp def 252 HP.
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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:29 pm

same bulk as skarm? no. chomp doesnt get 416 def
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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:14 pm

yea but it has much more hp so its kinda the same. Oh man, garchomp is gonna wreak ou even without sand veil.

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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:24 pm

sasymankanpro wrote:
same bulk as skarm? no. chomp doesnt get 416 def

Ok smart one, instead of spamming a 5 second comment out of your butt, why dont you go do some research. You're obviously forgetting the HP factor. And since I feel like shutting you down right now, Ill go ahead a do the research for you.

Lets take a move that both take neutral damage to, say banded scizor superpower:

Garchomp- 252 Atk Choice Band Scizor (+Atk) Superpower vs 252 HP/252 Def Garchomp (+Def) : 38.1% - 45%

Skarmory- 252 Atk Choice Band Scizor (+Atk) Superpower vs 252 HP/252 Def Skarmory (+Def) : 36.83% - 43.41%

Thats practically the same bulk. Obviously no one runs def garchomp, its a waste of a good poke but should they do, its as bulky as skarm.

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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:40 pm

sorry I have better things to do in my life then run damage calcs
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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:49 pm

if it had ddance, that ev spread would prob be viable.

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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:02 pm

sasymankanpro wrote:
sorry I have better things to do in my life then run damage calcs

Well then dont make a dumb 5 sec comment out of your ass next time.
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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:31 pm

hey No need to hate i was just pointing out the fact that skarm has like what 100 more def points
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PostSubject: Re: Garchomp? In my OU?   Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:34 pm

Next time think before you post.

Your post wasnt trying to point out that skarm has 100 more def than chomp, but you are implying that chomp doesnt have the same bulk as skarm.

Please dont make anymore pathetic comebacks attempting to contradict yourself.
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