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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:24 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:25 pm

Lol, im just saying. No need to be offended.
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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:11 pm

Go look on the Showdown teambuilder guys, they already have froakie and its evo line put in and maybe more.
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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:35 pm

oh cool i see them but they dont let you battle with them yet. but still you get to see their moves, and stats which is nice.

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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:12 pm

Well come pokemon have already changed to Fairy like Clefairy.
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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:55 pm

woah if goodra gets the right moves, its going to be almost a big a beast as goomy with that crazy high sp def (over 140 base!) and really good sp atk (almost 120 base) plus hydration. If it gets calm mind, omg it would prob go calm mind/rest/d pulse/muddy water. cool stuff

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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:21 pm

where are you getting these stats...?
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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:45 pm

check showdown nino. they already put them in on team builder but you cant battle with them yet

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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:05 pm

Ito, no one said those stats were confirmed. I was just saying they put them in, also who uses muddy water?
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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:06 pm

lol its a filler. it had no other moves atm

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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:27 am

I have Aegislash.

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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:34 am

Mega Scizor is actually weaker than the regular scizor mainly because it cant hold an item.

Mega Scizor - 150 base atk = 438 atk

Scizor - 130 base atk = 394 + iron plate = 472 atk. Not to mention life orb or choice band which makes it alot stronger.

The speed is irrelevant, base 65 and 75 are pretty much the same. Regular scizor outspeeds magnezone naturally, its just that ppl never put much speed into it.

Dont forget you only become a mega form when you go for an attack, meaning if you switch into an attack, you're still gonna be a regular form. Tbh I dont think mega-scizor is gonna go uber, its not any better than the regular scizor. (might be worse)

Now mega chomper stats

108/140/95/90/85/112 @ sand force

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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:44 am

you have a good point there. almost forgot that it cant hold items. however its bulk in its mega form is still unreal, having slightly more bulk than a skarm since it has a slightly higher hp. That paired with its great typing might be enough to knock it to ubers anyway since it can roost after coming in which counts as a move probably.

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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:53 pm

Or there is Aegislash.

Can take a hit with 150 Def/Sp. Def, only 60 Atk/Sp. Atk
As soon as it attacks, it gets to be 150 Atk/Sp Atk, bumping down defenses to 60.

It can also use Kings Shield, which is basically protect, and if the opponent makes contact, they drop 2 stages in attack. This can also be used to revert to shield form to take hits.

And the typing makes it able to cover most types with the exception of fire and ground, and those will go down as soon as people realize perma-weather abilities only last 5 turns in gen 6.

As for an item, I haven't found a good one yet, as I haven't felt like looking.
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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:02 pm

perma weather only lasts 5 turns now?? wow what a nerf. guess weather wars will be much tougher now with all the hazards

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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:28 pm

Ugh no ito defensive threat will never be uber. Smogon doesnt ban defensive threats, only offensive ones.

Yea weather is only 5 turns now, and you can only have 1 megamons per team.

Also the base power of Blizzard, Fireblast and Thunder are 110 instead of 120. and hidden power is 60 instead of 70.
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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:36 pm

not nessesarily true snce they made deoxys Diva uber but scizor and deoxys-D have totally different moves. Your prob right tho. mabye mega scizor will be ou after all

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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:41 pm

Fairy type pokemon still have to show they can compete in the metagame, at the moment not too impressed with the pokemon converted over..
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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:48 pm

It sounds like you never used a deoxys before... its an offensive threat despite its called "deoxys-D"..... Its speed and bulk allows it to set up multiple hazards which fks up ur opponent upon switch in. I used that sh1t all the time and theres no way you can stop it from setting up multiple hazards unless you use a bs mon like espeon or xatu.

Just because a mon doesnt attack doesnt mean its not an offensive threat....Although rare but lead azelf or latios with screens are also known as offensive threats....
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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:53 pm

obv I used deoxys. didnt I just say they had different moves? Always attacking everything I say now.. Anyway, I wouldnt really call mega scizor a defensive threat anyway with that high attack. Its bulk just makes it easier to set up 1 or 2 swords dances and sweep.

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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:27 pm

yeah sure if you keep making naive comments out of ur a$$ and keep contradicting yourself.

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Anyway, I wouldnt really call mega scizor a defensive threat anyway with that high attack. Its bulk just makes it easier to set up 1 or 2 swords dances and sweep.
Landous-T, it has 145atk you know? It can learn Rock Polish and SD. Is it a sweeper? Its a fking tank if you havent noticed. you dont get 2 free turns in this metagame naive boy. Latias and dntie dont even get 2 freeturns and they're bulky as fk. You didnt call scizor a defensive mon huh? sighhh you just contradict yourself again....

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however its bulk in its mega form is still unreal, having slightly more bulk than a skarm since it has a slightly higher hp. That paired with its great typing might be enough to knock it to ubers .
lol sure you said its bulk is unreal meaning its a defensive mons, last I check ppl dont say "unreal bulk" and refers it to an offensive mon. You just contradicted yourself babyboo. smh #thinkb4utalk. A debate is no fun when one doesnt use their braincells.

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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:36 pm

whatever allen... its bulk is unreal for an offensive pokemon. this isnt a court room so stop tryin to find every little thing I say and use it against me.

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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:03 pm

I hear with the perma-weather nerf that Excadrill may be bumped back down to OU.
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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:16 pm

Lol @ weather nerf. Oh well, clear skies may as well just be the new meta.
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PostSubject: Re: Gen 6 Announced!   Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:24 pm

if excadrill goes ou, goin sand all the way lol. been wanting to use him since he came out!

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