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PostSubject: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:11 pm

Sup ladies and gents, Theres a new 6th gen ladder on showdown. 6th gen is not that much different from 5th gen. There are only 2 things you need to know about 6th gen.

-Megamons, learn your megamons (you can only have 1 in battle). Not all mons benefit from their mega forms.

-Fairy Type, be familar with them. Dont go around punching clefables.

Thats it. Most of the 6th gen mons are garbage. There are about a few mons that y'all should take notice. Aegislash, talonflame, Zygarde, grenninja, (I might miss out 1 more 2 mons at most, but i doubt it). The rest of them like tyrantirum or some dragon grass, dragon rock or some new typing like electric normal or grass ghost are trash.

Enough with that, Genesect just got released from prison. Shouldnt even have to think about it, im gonna use this beast along with my old friend landorus and a new buddy azumarill. I went 28-2 (link) in 30 battles and the 2 losses are bs and you will see why. (Skarm was suppose to be deoxys here. Fuck showdown for not letting deoxys out of his cage)

Battles:
 

Conclusion:
-It seems like defog is the new rapid spin here as nothing can block that.
-If anyone got a good 6th gen mon let me know, it seems to me that most 6th gen mons are trash atm.
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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:31 am

Genesect is fine guys

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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:32 am

im liking carbink and Chestnaught

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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:08 am

That Gif is exactly what Genesect looks like.
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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:19 pm

The new gen 6 pokes (besides assault vest goodra) still got nothing on genesect lol. Sweeps like a pro.

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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:54 pm

Lol

Genesect > Goodra
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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:18 pm

i know, i know. Just that assault vest goodra can tank pretty nicely with its 150 sp def and ko back with fire blast but in general, genesect is much better

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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:33 pm

Genesect is not retarded. Its not gonna stay in and let you fireblast it. It will just uturn the hell out (which goodra is gonna take huge dmg) and switch into a mon that can counter you.

So result: goodra takes like 60-70% damage from uturn, genesect = same hp, incoming mon takes like 20% since its a counter. So yeah nice try countering genesect.

Edit: ok so goodra takes 50-55% for uturn from genesect...Same difference, still not a counter.
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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:41 pm

got rid of the posts on the other topic since its being moved here. Ill ost what I posted as well.

actually, its really this

+1 4 Atk Genesect U-turn vs. 248 HP / 0 Def (custom): 178-210 (46.47 - 54.83%) -- 61.33% chance to 2HKO

Its a slow pokemon so poeple are going to make it bulky. But thats true. Its like last gen. Kill what you can and u turn what kills it. Thats why its so hard to kill sometimes lol.

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and fair enough. tried genesect for the first time in a while and its like the new gen pokes bearly did anything to it besides assault vest goodras who switch in to tank a choiced bug buzz or something. Still does pretty good damage on them tho. The bg buzz at +1 would still do like 30% on the switch in.

But anyway, its a beast like always. wonder if its going to get to stay in ou this time along with normal lando tho. Both were fun to use again.

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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:47 pm

Goodra isnt very good against genesect whether it has fire blast or not, Uturn the physical stab move including the +1 is going to take about HALF its HP in one blow and switch to something that easily counters it and finish it off depending on if they switch or not. Of course anything with Fire blast kills Genesect. Nowadays most people use a physically based Genesect rather than a special so assault vest doesnt even effect Uturn.

So its more like 54% to 63% damage. After rocks this is gonna hurt. You can even use Iron Head if you wanted to dealing about 61% to 72% and hope you get the flinch. Crits are OHKOs. So regardless, unless you're risking it or just a plain idiot, Goodra cant kill / Counter genesect.

Btw most people aren't going to run a physically defensive goodra with its poor base 70.

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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:49 pm

Why would you use bug buzz on genesect? use uturn, its alot better move.

In your scenario, goodra takes 30% from bug buzz and you are force to switch out.

if you have uturn, goodra takes 50% AND you get to switch into any mons you like, preferably a mon that counters goodra and they are forced to re-evaluate their plan.

Big difference.
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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:53 pm

guess your right. no big deal. genesect is still a beast whether it gets walled by a poke or not. and the bug buzz was just an example.

didnt even know physical genesects are a thing now. Then this guy has something for just about any poke. Going to use it then until it gets kicked back to ubers Razz

and didnt add any physical bulk to that goodra insane. just hp.

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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:09 pm

This uturn momentum strategy on genesect applies to every mon not just goodra. Say heatran naively switches into genesect, gets hit with uturn, it wont do much dmg BUT now you can bring in any mons you like. Genesect lost no hp and require no risk doing this and theres really no true counter to this strategy.

The power of genesect uturn is just out of this roof.  Genesect attack is 372, if it gets a download boost it will be 558, and in terms of base stat it is valued at 205! That being said Genesect true base stat is actually 685 not 600 or 660.

The reason they put genesect and others (lando, tornadus, etc) back in OU is because they want to see how they do against the new mons. Just because something is strong in 5th doesnt mean it will be strong in 6th.

Oh and it also gets extreme speed, with attack boost, it has the same power as acrecus normal extreme speed! A well played genesect is usually the last or second to last mon to die in a battle, or never dies.
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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:32 pm

Genesect is my bby gurl dont tuch it
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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:08 pm

WTF Genesect gets Shift Gear?!!!! Its a rock polish that also boost your attack by 1 stage. Holy fuck.
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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:58 pm

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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:15 pm

wut??? so much for lacking speed D: Now it really doesnt lack anything! but I think scarf may be more useful since it enjoys using u-turn which would make the boost useless. unless maybe it could use shift gear/iron head/x scissor/and a filler of either blaze kick, flamethrower, ice beam or extreme speed. really doubt genesect is gonna stay in ou much longer tho. Its just too good.

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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:09 am

Chomper, whats your view on Hawlucha. You know the new fighting/flying type with the fancy Flying Press move.

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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:35 pm

Genesect > All
If it can get the shift gear off effectively in a position where its safe then its pretty much over lol.

Prof, that pokemon looks pretty weird.
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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:38 pm

But it also has a move which is two types Flying and Fighting.

TWO FREAKIN TYPES
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PostSubject: Re: GENESECT IS BACK!!!!   Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:13 pm

Prof West, it has a cool typing and a good ability, but other than that its just an average mon. The problem I see is that it doesnt hit hard enough, and not only that there are mons that can stop it from doing any further damage like aegislash or talonflame. In other words hawlucha is like an unburden hitmonlee.

As for flying press theres really not much use for it especially when hawlucha gets acrobatics and hjk.Other than scrafty (which dies to hjk) or some normal fighting type,  theres really no mons that will take more damage from flying press than hjk/acrobatics.
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